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hi we're live from goddard space flight

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center i'm erin kislik and today we're

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celebrating 25 years of hubble servicing

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so you may be wondering what servicing

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is it's just like when you take your car

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in to get the tires rotated or the oil

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change or even just fuel up some tight

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satellites in space need a little bit of

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help too

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with us today we have astronauts who

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went on the first servicing mission to

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hubble 25 years ago this week and

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they're about to tell you a little bit

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good morning i'm dr ken carpenter the

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operations project scientist for hubble

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at the time

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of the servicing mission one i was the

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operations co-eye for the goddard high

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resolution spectrograph and i must say

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appreciated the repair to ghrs that was

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done in the mission as well

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and uh also relatively fresh operations

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project scientists for the project

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overall at that point

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we've heard what the atmosphere was like

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during that time and the challenges from

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the many previous speakers now we will

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hear from the people who actually made

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it happen in space

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sm lawn was launched on the 2nd of

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december 1993. as you know the mission

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restored the spaceport observatory's

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optical performance correcting for the

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spherical collaboration with the

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installation of with pic2 and costar

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the flight also started installed new

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gyros and solar arrays on the telescope

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in addition to the ghrs fix

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there were seven astronauts on sts-61

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richard covey kenneth bowersox catherine

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thornton claude nicolier jeffrey hoffman

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story musgrave and tom akers

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two of these brave and amazing

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astronauts are here with us today

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to tell of their experiences in orbit on

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the mission which save the hubble space

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telescope

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i'm going to introduce both of them and

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then we'll let them get into their

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speeches directly

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catherine thornton earned her phd at the

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university of virginia in 1979 and

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became an astronaut in july 1985.

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her initial assignments included flight

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software verification in the shuttle

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avionics integration laboratory

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serving as a member a team member of the

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vehicle integration test team at kennedy

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and as a spacecraft communicator or

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capcom

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kathy was a mission specialist on four

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shuttle flights her first was the

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department of defense classified mission

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her second was the maiden voyage of

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space shuttle endeavour and helped

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repair the intel sat

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and also evaluated space station

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assembly techniques

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on her fourth and final flight dr

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thornton served on the as payload

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commander on the second u.s microgravity

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laboratory mission

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but today of course we're concentrating

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on our third flight

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which on which dr thornton was a mission

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specialist for the hst servicing mission

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on the flight she installed costar

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which you've heard about earlier

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also disposed of in a scene worthy of a

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ballet

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one of the solar arrays

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and i still every time i see that video

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clip here the blue danube because of a

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german ard tv station which set that

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scene to that music

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she has logged over 975 hours in space

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including more than 21 hours of

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extra vehicular activity

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and is currently a professor of

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mechanical and aerospace engineering at

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the university of virginia

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jeffrey hoffman received a phd from

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harvard university in 1971 and became an

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astronaut in august 1979

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during preparations for the shuttle

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orbital test flights he worked in the

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flight simulation laboratory at downey

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california testing guidance navigation

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and flight control systems he served as

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a support crew member for sts-5 and as a

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capcom for sts-8 and 82.

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jeff is a veteran of five shuttle

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flights on his first mission he made the

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first sts contingency spacewalk

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commander and mission specialist

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on sts-46 which deployed the european

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retrievable carrier and carried out the

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on which he conducted three evas

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including the installation of with pic2

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he did one more flight after sm1 on

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sts-75 which did a reflight of the

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tethered satellite system and the third

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flight of the us microgravity payload he

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has logged more than 1200 hours and 21.5

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million miles in space

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he is currently a professor in the

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department of aeronautics and

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astronautics at mit and is the author of

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a book titled an astronaut's diary

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please join me in

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enthusiastically welcoming dr katherine

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thanks ken

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are we live

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anniversary i mean it's great to come

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here and see old friends and colleagues

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you know we're both professors so i

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don't know if you have the same

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sort of shock that i do when i i talk to

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my students now about hubble and realize

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they weren't born when we did this yes

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where where we are

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yeah i think what what we

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would like to do um we we have a few

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pictures most of which you've probably

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seen before but to try to give a sense

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of what it was like being the crew

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that was going to go up and and do this

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we're the people that the public sees

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more than anyone else but we're probably

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more aware than any of the public of

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how many people were involved in the

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success of this mission and and that's

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why it's great to be here and and that

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everybody's had a chance to review all

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incredible contributions that so many

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a servicing telescope there was so much

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just like there is now of the webb

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telescope which also has so much new

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technology it's it's a lesson that i you

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something that's so new and so

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flying so you know we weren't really

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them and then of course within the

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an astronomer so i i kept getting

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messages from astronomer friends telling

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away in the summer and people would you

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meet new people you know what do you do

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because it was so critical to any any

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thing you could think of that would

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this was the last eva training session

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eva there's a beer party at the outpost

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on us and sure enough

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sent us up to attach those fly swatters

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to the end of the arm using that same

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strapping tool by the way that

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strapping tool here and then of course

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closing the doors same thing so no

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i had my eva union card and so you know

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endeavor where we went up to capture the

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intelsat satellite strap a new booster

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all the things that went wrong before we

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finally successfully did get it deployed

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person eva sending three guys out the to

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to grab it with their hands because the

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capture bar for lots of reasons didn't

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we were called the cowboy eva crew

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because we did things that were somewhat

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unconventional and number one nasa

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headquarters was determined that

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they were not going to have any cowboy

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evas on this hst mission and number two

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they wanted only experienced eva crew

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members on it well as it turns out the

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eba experience in the office was kind of

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thin at that time so they got me and tom

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akers from the cowboy eva group on the

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mission

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i love this picture we look so young

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i love it

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yeah zero gravity helps that a lot yeah

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much better than botox actually um yeah

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the four of us with mustaches try to to

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convince story and claude to grow one

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but

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unsuccessful no we didn't give we didn't

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give kathy any any grief but in in any

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case

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um

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you know a tremendous amount of time

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training um

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you know claude nicolier who was a

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european astronaut because of course the

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the europeans had contributed to hubble

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and it was great and claude had

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uh

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flown actually with me on on my third

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flight his first flight and and had

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operated the arm for the deployment of

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eureka and and was you know he did it

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with the precision of a swiss watchmaker

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and uh so he he was it was great to have

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him on the flight

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um

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and

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we we actually introduced virtual

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reality as a training tool for the first

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time it was

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pretty clunky and the scenes only

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updated about once a second so you had

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to move really slowly as you moved

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around but you know you move pretty

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slowly when you're out doing eva

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um for

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the the spacewalkers of course the the

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main

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work goes on underwater

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um

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we were kind of unique here because

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we did our

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most of our eva training at the marshall

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space flight center because they had a

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really deep pool and the neutral

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buoyancy facility had not yet been built

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at johnson

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so it was it was really unique

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you remember we we would be away for a

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long time and and instead of training in

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houston going home every night we were

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staying at the resident and we'd get up

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early in the morning

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after breakfast we'd go and we'd all sit

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around the table with our trainers and

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you know they'd have the hubble models

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we'd go through in great detail this is

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what we're going to do today this is

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what we want to learn this is what we're

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investigating and then we

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do the uh

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the water run and and the two of us who

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were

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not in space suits would usually scuba

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for part of it and then afterwards we'd

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sit around and have a debrief then we'd

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all go to the gym then we'd have dinner

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and then we'd sit around in the hot tub

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and talk about what we were going to do

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the next day we were speaking in

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acronyms and waving our hands and anyone

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who wasn't connected with us left yeah

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the other people in the hot tub they

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never lasted

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but it really did build up a team and

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and um you know i'm i'm not saying that

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it was pleasant being away from the

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families for all that time but um

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it it was certainly

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it was the first mission and we knew how

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unique and important it was

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uh

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yeah you've all you've all seen this um

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the practicing on on the whiff pick and

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and you know just how to get yourself in

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in just the right position

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uh story referred to what we were doing

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as choreography which uh which we we

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kind of liked that idea that you know

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just

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to be

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one or two inches in a different

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position so you can't quite reach what

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you're trying to get to could make all

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the difference

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and of course we wanted to get uh

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experience with the actual hardware so

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we we spent a lot of time up up here at

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you know this this was hubble and and

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one of the incredible things working on

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it was

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everybody was working in the same

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direction um

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i know i had had experience

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working with marshall and johnson and

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there were always

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certain you know conflicts i don't know

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about your experience with with the

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military or whatever

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but um but none of that

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you know here everybody was was whatever

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it took

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um

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you know you've heard about the

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development of the new tools i mean we

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we could be in the water tank

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um

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you know if if my wrench had a you know

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instead of a 10 degree bend

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a 20 degree bend i could save a little

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time and have an easier access to that

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bolt and darned if the next week you'd

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come in and sure enough you'd have a new

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tool i mean the the

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it was just phenomenal

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and everything here remember we test

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every tool we had we had to test on

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every bolt

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and when we worked in the water tank the

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things didn't go as smoothly as they

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would in real life because it's been

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corroding in a chlorine pool forever and

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and you still have the weight even

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though you're floating in the pool you

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still have the weight of everything so

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pushing in the whiff pick and pushing in

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the co-star was really a muscular event

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you had to put a lot of effort behind it

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and we knew that wasn't going to be real

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and then we came up here and did fit

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checks and we watched those instruments

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being put into the high fidelity

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simulator but but they're then suspended

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from cranes because they're heavy

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they're not going to float here

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and so it's a combination of those two

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that made made the mission successful

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and in particular the high fidelity

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simulator up here that we got a chance

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to fit everything that we could possibly

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fit on and get confidence it was going

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the first time we put

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the with pick in

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you know it's suspended and and we're

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we're pushing it in and it got about

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halfway in

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wouldn't go any further

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and you know they took it out it turned

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out that the

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the thermal covering on it uh the

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thermal uh you know the the kapton

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um

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with pick was sort of like that and they

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had put the

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covering at a on a diagonal

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and that's why it wouldn't wouldn't fit

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in and and they went back and and sure

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enough it turned out that with pick one

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had had that same problem because that's

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the way the drawing had been and so they

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fixed with pick one but they had never

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changed the drawing so we've picked two

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so they they quickly fixed that and and

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it went in and then whenever we tried to

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put co-stars remember co-star we'd hit a

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hard stop as well and it turned out

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there was a bolt head or something that

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was a 1g thing

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we didn't know if it was one g i mean

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the the

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to be a recessed bolt but everybody said

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well we built the high fidelity

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simulator to the same specs as as we

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built the original telescope so we

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didn't really know i guess when you took

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out the the first coaster then

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the photometer you could see that

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the bolt was recessed but

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you know when when you think about

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neither the weft pick nor the co-star

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went into the high fidelity simulator

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the first time we we

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went to install them

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and the other thing

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remember we had our helmets and and we

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wanted to see

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what would it look like at night how

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much visibility would we have at night

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so could you turn out all the lights in

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the room

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oh boy the safety people no way you

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can't possibly do that much too

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dangerous but this was hubble and and

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they did it and

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it was little things like that

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the other thing that i remember

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from

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on one of our our meetings

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one of our trips up here to goddard we

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got a message we we were to go down to

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nasa headquarters to meet with dan

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golden remember that

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so there were the seven of us

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in in his office facing him behind his

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desk and he just looked at us and he

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said

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i hope you realize that the future of

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nasa's human space flight program

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depends on the success of your mission

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so you know no pressure right

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people sort of asked us did we find

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extra prey i don't know how you felt

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about it i felt like we as the crew were

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shielded by milt and by other folks from

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a lot of the

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independent reviews and things that were

519
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going on outside of our training and we

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were largely left alone at least i felt

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we were

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to to train to learn what we needed to

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do to accomplish the mission

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yeah that's the thing the first thing

525
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that that any of these independent

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reviews would want to do is oh we got to

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go talk with the crew and after the

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first two or three we that was just

529
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going to take too much time so yeah we

530
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we were pretty well shielded

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let's move along

532
00:19:58,630 --> 00:19:57,039
so yeah this is all that always that

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exciting moment when by the way you're

534
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not normally planes are not allowed to

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fly over the uh the launch pad but they

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00:20:07,350 --> 00:20:05,200
always make an exception when

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the astronauts come down in the t-38s

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they they love to see a circle around

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the launch pad

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and and uh

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yeah we did try on the first of december

542
00:20:20,710 --> 00:20:18,559
but the winds were too high it there was

543
00:20:23,110 --> 00:20:20,720
a total eclipse of the moon remember

544
00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:23,120
that night which well i'm an astronomer

545
00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:25,520
so i pay attention but what's that thing

546
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up there yeah

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so uh

548
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whether that was a bad omen for the

549
00:20:37,190 --> 00:20:34,720
first of december or a good omen for the

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success of our mission who knows but uh

551
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we did go up and um

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yeah i mean

553
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we were um we had all been in space

554
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before and and so we could really get

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00:20:52,470 --> 00:20:50,880
right to work we knew what we were doing

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there's one moment that i remember

557
00:20:55,590 --> 00:20:53,840
vividly and that's when we were in

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quarantine in houston

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just before we left we were on a sleep

560
00:21:00,950 --> 00:20:59,840
shift so we were up it got up at like

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two o'clock in the morning was our

562
00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:02,799
normal wake-up and it was the morning

563
00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:04,640
that we left to fly to the cape we all

564
00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:06,240
went outside at about three o'clock in

565
00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:08,000
the morning and watched hubble fly over

566
00:21:12,390 --> 00:21:10,080
remember that and thinking in three days

567
00:21:14,630 --> 00:21:12,400
we're going to be right there

568
00:21:16,870 --> 00:21:14,640
well the other story about that was when

569
00:21:18,950 --> 00:21:16,880
we were waiting uh

570
00:21:20,950 --> 00:21:18,960
we were up we were in the shuttle but

571
00:21:23,270 --> 00:21:20,960
all the the spectators were waiting and

572
00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:23,280
my brother who's a space nut told me

573
00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:25,280
about this he said shortly before i

574
00:21:29,029 --> 00:21:27,520
launched they all saw hubble fly over

575
00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:29,039
and they said that gave them a good

576
00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:30,720
feeling because they figured nasa knew

577
00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:32,400
what they were doing you know

578
00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:33,760
everything worked

579
00:21:38,070 --> 00:21:36,240
but yeah we had we had four space suits

580
00:21:40,950 --> 00:21:38,080
because we were all different sizes so

581
00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:40,960
we really couldn't and so

582
00:21:47,590 --> 00:21:44,640
the airlock was was pretty uh crammed up

583
00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:47,600
we talked a lot about tools and and the

584
00:21:50,789 --> 00:21:48,559
tools

585
00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:50,799
you know just absolutely uh

586
00:21:54,789 --> 00:21:53,039
extraordinary and and you you heard the

587
00:21:57,270 --> 00:21:54,799
story about how

588
00:21:59,350 --> 00:21:57,280
um not too many months before the flight

589
00:22:01,830 --> 00:21:59,360
we we had the idea

590
00:22:03,430 --> 00:22:01,840
you know instead of having to go out to

591
00:22:06,310 --> 00:22:03,440
the after the shuttle

592
00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:06,320
load up with the tools do our work go

593
00:22:11,110 --> 00:22:08,720
back put the tools in the tool chest and

594
00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:11,120
then come back in wouldn't it be easier

595
00:22:15,669 --> 00:22:14,159
if we had all the tools inside

596
00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:15,679
and

597
00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:17,600
normally the response would have been no

598
00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:19,200
way we've done the weight and balance

599
00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:21,200
everything is checked we can't all the

600
00:22:25,029 --> 00:22:23,200
drawings are done but again this was

601
00:22:25,750 --> 00:22:25,039
hubble and darned if they didn't do it

602
00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:25,760
and

603
00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:27,200
that first day when we couldn't get the

604
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:29,120
doors closed that really made a

605
00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:30,480
difference because

606
00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:32,480
we were out over eight hours and i know

607
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:34,640
my electrical power was starting to go

608
00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:37,600
off the the curve so

609
00:22:41,909 --> 00:22:39,679
uh but one thing we made sure is that

610
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:41,919
that every tool from that was inside the

611
00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:43,919
crew module that we would need was moved

612
00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:46,320
into the airlock before we depressed it

613
00:22:49,669 --> 00:22:48,159
so we did have access to every single

614
00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:49,679
tool it made a little crowded in the

615
00:22:53,350 --> 00:22:51,360
airlock but we made sure that that was

616
00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:53,360
the case every single day

617
00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:54,960
and of course every one of those tools

618
00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:56,320
has to be

619
00:23:01,350 --> 00:22:58,480
tethered and just learning how to do all

620
00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:01,360
that was a big difference

621
00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:03,200
taking care of our suits

622
00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:04,320
[Music]

623
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:06,480
i guess you had already been trained on

624
00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:08,480
multiple evas i i

625
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:09,600
had

626
00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:11,280
there are a lot of special procedures

627
00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:12,960
when you have to use your spacesuits

628
00:23:17,350 --> 00:23:15,600
more than once on a mission

629
00:23:19,270 --> 00:23:17,360
and

630
00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:19,280
the other thing you know after they they

631
00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:22,000
were very interested in

632
00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:24,400
it had been determined that doing five

633
00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:27,280
evas in a row was too much for just a

634
00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:29,679
normal two-person crew that's why there

635
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:31,120
were four of us and

636
00:23:37,270 --> 00:23:34,559
two eva crews but the evas were so well

637
00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:37,280
designed you know the the tasks that we

638
00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:38,960
had to do

639
00:23:43,510 --> 00:23:41,200
i know i i felt probably you at the end

640
00:23:45,269 --> 00:23:43,520
of every eva if i think if i had had to

641
00:23:47,830 --> 00:23:45,279
go out the next day i could have done it

642
00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:47,840
i think we all felt that way

643
00:23:51,750 --> 00:23:49,679
ed mentioned that story was anxious to

644
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:51,760
get out early on the first day and we

645
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:54,480
did every single day because as designed

646
00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:56,640
our eva we would have been going eva

647
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:58,320
during the time the shuttle passed

648
00:24:01,669 --> 00:24:00,240
through the south atlantic anomaly which

649
00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:01,679
would have increased our radiation

650
00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:04,720
exposure significantly and so every

651
00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:06,400
single day we got up and tried to get

652
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:08,080
out earlier than the flight plan called

653
00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:10,320
for which i'm sure drove milton's teams

654
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:11,919
crazy because they then had to replay in

655
00:24:16,230 --> 00:24:14,000
all the maneuvers as we were leaving but

656
00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:16,240
we did manage to get out do all the evas

657
00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:17,760
and get back in before we pass through

658
00:24:23,029 --> 00:24:20,080
that south atlantic anomaly the crews

659
00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:23,039
that were not going eva did try to do

660
00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:24,720
everything in the morning so the eva

661
00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:26,320
team only had to get up eat their

662
00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:28,480
breakfast get dressed and then climb in

663
00:24:32,789 --> 00:24:30,480
the suits they were prepared for them

664
00:24:34,470 --> 00:24:32,799
no one else even had a chance to eat

665
00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:34,480
so we were very busy in trying to do

666
00:24:38,789 --> 00:24:36,799
that and i think for those five days we

667
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:38,799
overall as a crew didn't eat very well

668
00:24:42,149 --> 00:24:40,080
and didn't take care of ourselves very

669
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:42,159
well because we were totally focused on

670
00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:44,159
on that timeline and getting things done

671
00:24:48,390 --> 00:24:46,000
we did rest a little bit after we got it

672
00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:48,400
deployed we got a day i think to sort of

673
00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:50,640
recoup before we de-orbited but it was a

674
00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:52,480
busy busy time up there for everybody

675
00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:54,559
well i'll take exception to the eating i

676
00:25:00,070 --> 00:24:57,039
i always ate ate a lot jeff ain't fine

677
00:25:01,750 --> 00:25:00,080
especially rest of us did not um i i

678
00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:01,760
always eat a big breakfast and i knew i

679
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:03,039
wasn't going to get anything to eat for

680
00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:04,799
the next eight hours so i always made

681
00:25:08,149 --> 00:25:06,559
sure that that i that i got a good

682
00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:08,159
breakfast

683
00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:09,039
um

684
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:10,159
yeah we

685
00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:12,000
kathy mentioned radiation you know

686
00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:15,200
hubble hubble is uh higher than than any

687
00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:17,279
other shuttle orbit so

688
00:25:21,909 --> 00:25:19,360
we were sort of scraping the inner edge

689
00:25:23,750 --> 00:25:21,919
of the radiation belts and it was

690
00:25:26,310 --> 00:25:23,760
predicted we were going to get about 10

691
00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:26,320
times the normal dose which is still

692
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:29,039
nothing to get concerned about but they

693
00:25:33,269 --> 00:25:30,960
they did have us wear special uh

694
00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:33,279
radiation monitors at various places in

695
00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:34,320
our body

696
00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:36,320
just so that we could um

697
00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:38,559
that they they could get a better sense

698
00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:41,520
of of what the dosage really was

699
00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:44,080
and then the typical process of of going

700
00:25:56,549 --> 00:25:45,279
in

701
00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:56,559
get pretty cold so we wore

702
00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:58,320
underneath that a set of thermal

703
00:26:01,590 --> 00:25:59,919
underwear sort of sort of like you wear

704
00:26:03,510 --> 00:26:01,600
when you go skiing except it's made of

705
00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:03,520
nomex because of course the the

706
00:26:08,470 --> 00:26:05,520
atmosphere inside a spacesuit is pure

707
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:08,480
oxygen and so flammability is is a big

708
00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:10,080
concern

709
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:12,320
and then you know getting in the suits

710
00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:15,840
uh it's a it's a kind of a squeeze

711
00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:18,640
um you get some sense there of of how

712
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:20,480
many tools we had to carry out and of

713
00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:22,320
course you have to do a pre-breathe of

714
00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:24,480
pure oxygen for 40 minutes before you

715
00:26:30,950 --> 00:26:26,960
can depress your suit

716
00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:32,470
the movie was supposed to start

717
00:26:44,549 --> 00:26:38,230
i don't think we'll show the entire

718
00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:46,310
just maybe take us through the first two

719
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:53,750
um

720
00:26:57,909 --> 00:26:56,320
nasa graphics get more and more fancy

721
00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:57,919
but anyway yeah

722
00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:00,640
4am launch um

723
00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:02,640
it's like watching a

724
00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:13,029
and that's the earth from 600 kilometers

725
00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:14,799
starting right away kathy was having a

726
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:16,320
bad hair day

727
00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:18,320
every day every day is better than his

728
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:21,200
story does as well yeah power tools of

729
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:26,870
pilot and commander they've got to do

730
00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:29,200
the rendezvous find hubble

731
00:27:32,789 --> 00:27:31,120
capture it

732
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:32,799
yeah it's really exciting when you first

733
00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:34,480
see it as a little point of light and

734
00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:36,640
then it gets bigger and bigger

735
00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:42,310
and of course we didn't have the hd

736
00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:44,399
cameras that they take up nowadays so

737
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:47,360
this is all uh old-fashioned resolution

738
00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:50,320
but now getting

739
00:27:59,269 --> 00:27:57,620
and then

740
00:28:01,510 --> 00:27:59,279
[Music]

741
00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:01,520
you know at this point

742
00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:03,600
is when it sort of hits you

743
00:28:09,190 --> 00:28:05,440
all that preparation

744
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:09,200
and now the very first day of the first

745
00:28:12,549 --> 00:28:11,039
eva

746
00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:12,559
and

747
00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:17,440
changed the procedure that was

748
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:20,080
originally recommended for for doing the

749
00:28:25,430 --> 00:28:22,559
uh the gyros where

750
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:25,440
instead of having to remove the the sun

751
00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:27,360
shades which would have taken a lot more

752
00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:28,320
time

753
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:31,760
i sort of inserted story underneath and

754
00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:32,640
and then

755
00:28:38,470 --> 00:28:35,039
i would loosen the bolts he would remove

756
00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:38,480
the the rsu package and

757
00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:39,360
um

758
00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:40,320
then

759
00:28:44,230 --> 00:28:41,919
hand it to me i'd hand him the new one

760
00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:44,240
he'd put it in place i'd i'd put the

761
00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:46,320
bolts on and then when we're all

762
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:48,640
finished very gently because remember he

763
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:50,240
can't see what's behind him and he's

764
00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:53,200
inside all of this complex machinery and

765
00:28:57,029 --> 00:28:55,440
none of us wanted to be known as someone

766
00:28:58,950 --> 00:28:57,039
who broke something on hubble that

767
00:29:01,590 --> 00:28:58,960
wasn't already broken that would be a

768
00:29:03,669 --> 00:29:01,600
bad deal

769
00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:03,679
and those are the the thermal enclosures

770
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:05,840
that that you heard about

771
00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:07,840
this is now putting the old

772
00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:13,830
we all cross train for every single task

773
00:29:18,710 --> 00:29:16,480
so if during the night and and this is

774
00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:18,720
the door problem by the way we'll we'll

775
00:29:22,310 --> 00:29:20,720
talk about that in detail i think maybe

776
00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:22,320
this afternoon okay

777
00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:25,360
if the team had decided to reschedule

778
00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:27,039
events for the next day and say oh we're

779
00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:28,399
not doing solar rays today we're doing

780
00:29:36,870 --> 00:29:30,320
something else we were all prepared to

781
00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:38,070
um

782
00:29:43,750 --> 00:29:41,760
yeah i just you know milt described his

783
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:43,760
feeling when he heard that the doors

784
00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:47,600
didn't close when um when i i

785
00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:50,399
my son my two sons said jeff you missed

786
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:51,679
a real opportunity you should have

787
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:53,440
called down houston we have a problem

788
00:29:57,350 --> 00:29:55,440
but i didn't think of that at the time

789
00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:57,360
you you take the solar array so you just

790
00:30:01,269 --> 00:29:59,039
saw the first solar array roll up

791
00:30:03,430 --> 00:30:01,279
correctly and this is the second one and

792
00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:03,440
as soon as covey saw the bla the bank

793
00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:06,000
blankets go kind of slack he stopped the

794
00:30:09,269 --> 00:30:07,760
retraction it's because the there was a

795
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:09,279
kink in the buy stem that wouldn't let

796
00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:11,760
it roll up so tom and i knew before we

797
00:30:15,430 --> 00:30:13,200
went out that day that we were going to

798
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:15,440
be jettisoning that solar array but it

799
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:17,120
was in the plan and we had probably

800
00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:18,640
thought of that before

801
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:20,080
we knew it yeah we had a plan to do it

802
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:21,279
we knew for certain that it was going to

803
00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:23,919
happen so we disconnected the solar ray

804
00:30:28,149 --> 00:30:26,320
in darkness because that

805
00:30:30,149 --> 00:30:28,159
made the connection dead and then had to

806
00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:30,159
release it in light i did take the

807
00:30:33,190 --> 00:30:31,760
tether off and i made that call to the

808
00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:33,200
ground tether is off so you wouldn't

809
00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:35,039
think i was going to be

810
00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:37,200
tied to it i just released it i didn't

811
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:39,120
push it off i just let it go we backed

812
00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:41,279
away from it and then you can see when

813
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:43,760
uh sox fired the jets to move us away

814
00:30:49,029 --> 00:30:46,480
from it that it uh impinged on the array

815
00:30:51,669 --> 00:30:49,039
and it just started flapping cruising it

816
00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:51,679
was incredible we were mesmerized it was

817
00:30:55,669 --> 00:30:53,679
turning somersaults i remember finally

818
00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:55,679
tom called up from the cargo bay said

819
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:57,120
hey aren't we supposed to be doing some

820
00:31:01,990 --> 00:31:00,240
useful work oh yeah snap out

821
00:31:04,149 --> 00:31:02,000
so we installed the new solo arrays on

822
00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:04,159
and one of the connections we drove by

823
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:05,840
hand because it was so critical that we

824
00:31:11,350 --> 00:31:08,080
didn't cross thread it and totally

825
00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:11,360
kill the telescope yeah and this is the

826
00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:13,760
the first of the optical

827
00:31:20,070 --> 00:31:16,880
corrections uh putting in the the wiff

828
00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:20,080
pick and for all of the potential

829
00:31:23,830 --> 00:31:22,000
problems that

830
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:23,840
we were prepared for

831
00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:27,120
it just worked beautifully and and

832
00:31:31,029 --> 00:31:29,440
by and large that was true about the

833
00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:31,039
whole mission we did have those few

834
00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:32,559
snags and

835
00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:34,559
uh again if we have a chance later we'll

836
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:36,799
talk about the great screw chase on on

837
00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:39,120
the final eva day that was that was

838
00:31:41,750 --> 00:31:40,640
pretty exciting

839
00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:41,760
um

840
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:43,440
but bringing this up

841
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:45,039
and i think we'll we'll show co-star and

842
00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:50,950
i would have bet money that at least one

843
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:52,799
of these instruments wouldn't have gone

844
00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:54,640
in on the first attempt and that we'd be

845
00:31:57,990 --> 00:31:56,080
do some we would be doing some

846
00:32:00,310 --> 00:31:58,000
macgyvering up there to make it work but

847
00:32:01,909 --> 00:32:00,320
they were all i mean we had hacksaws and

848
00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:01,919
hammers and whatever it was going to

849
00:32:07,190 --> 00:32:04,960
take we were ready

850
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:07,200
and i actually had had a call from

851
00:32:10,389 --> 00:32:08,399
someone i

852
00:32:12,549 --> 00:32:10,399
won't name but high up at the space

853
00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:12,559
telescope science institute

854
00:32:18,149 --> 00:32:15,440
a fellow astronomer telling me uh you

855
00:32:20,470 --> 00:32:18,159
know if you can only get in either with

856
00:32:22,470 --> 00:32:20,480
pick or co-star we'll consider the

857
00:32:24,549 --> 00:32:22,480
mission a success but don't tell anyone

858
00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:24,559
i said that

859
00:32:28,870 --> 00:32:27,039
and we didn't and we did them both

860
00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:28,880
and then the magnetometers of course

861
00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:30,720
simple magnetometers they're never going

862
00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:32,799
to fail and there's two of them anyway

863
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:34,640
and they both failed and you couldn't

864
00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:36,720
remove them so we had to put new ones on

865
00:32:40,630 --> 00:32:38,559
top of the old ones disconnect the

866
00:32:43,029 --> 00:32:40,640
wiring from the old ones wire up the new

867
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:43,039
ones and now kathy and tom are going to

868
00:32:48,389 --> 00:32:45,440
complete the optical repairs

869
00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:48,399
this is eva day four when i came in from

870
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:51,120
eva 2 i ended up with an ear block

871
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:52,610
and so i was sort of a

872
00:32:55,909 --> 00:32:54,000
[Music]

873
00:32:57,269 --> 00:32:55,919
on the injured reserve for the next day

874
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:57,279
and it wasn't clear what i was whether i

875
00:33:01,029 --> 00:32:59,760
was going to get eba for but um they did

876
00:33:02,950 --> 00:33:01,039
let me go out

877
00:33:06,149 --> 00:33:02,960
tom is inside the telescope and he's

878
00:33:08,789 --> 00:33:06,159
directing mostly claude but also me on

879
00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:08,799
uh how to hold it and up down right left

880
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:10,320
in order to get it in i mean it's a

881
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:12,080
tight fit look

882
00:33:15,509 --> 00:33:13,919
and it just it just floated in it didn't

883
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:15,519
have to do anything to it i just sort of

884
00:33:19,029 --> 00:33:17,440
put my hands on it and it just sort of

885
00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:19,039
it wanted to go in it just floated

886
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:20,880
straight in there and then tom latched

887
00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:23,120
it down

888
00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:25,279
we also put some new memory on the

889
00:33:29,509 --> 00:33:26,960
computers

890
00:33:31,669 --> 00:33:29,519
up there and some other cats and dogs

891
00:33:34,070 --> 00:33:31,679
some other small things that we did

892
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:34,080
while we were up there

893
00:33:37,509 --> 00:33:36,399
so i think we'll we'll move on

894
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:37,519
um

895
00:33:42,149 --> 00:33:40,000
after installing with pick uh we we had

896
00:33:44,870 --> 00:33:42,159
to wait you don't get too much free time

897
00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:44,880
out out there but uh we we had enough

898
00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:46,960
time that i asked claude to fly me out

899
00:33:50,549 --> 00:33:48,240
over the um

900
00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:50,559
the wing and and they had let us take

901
00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:52,480
one of the apollo hasselblad i think

902
00:33:56,710 --> 00:33:54,480
that may have been the last time one of

903
00:33:59,590 --> 00:33:56,720
those hustle bloods flew but we wanted

904
00:34:01,669 --> 00:33:59,600
to take one outside so

905
00:34:04,149 --> 00:34:01,679
just to share with people what it what

906
00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:04,159
it looked like to be outside servicing

907
00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:06,480
hubble you can see story up there on the

908
00:34:11,030 --> 00:34:08,960
other side and of course it's a real

909
00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:11,040
wide angle camera so it's all distorted

910
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:14,240
the earth is not flat believe me

911
00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:15,520
and the orbiter's not shaped like a

912
00:34:20,069 --> 00:34:17,760
banana right

913
00:34:21,909 --> 00:34:20,079
although i i will say from our orbit

914
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:21,919
normally we talk about going around

915
00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:24,879
every every 90 minutes 16 orbits a day

916
00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:27,520
but we we went around every 95 minutes

917
00:34:32,310 --> 00:34:29,679
because of kepler's laws it they really

918
00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:32,320
work and you know 15 orbits a day but

919
00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:33,599
still

920
00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:36,159
and every once in a while it's just so

921
00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:37,919
beautiful up there i mean the sun i

922
00:34:41,909 --> 00:34:39,599
don't know if this is a sunrise or a

923
00:34:43,829 --> 00:34:41,919
sunset but you just gotta

924
00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:43,839
you know i can't say smell the roses

925
00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:45,760
because you couldn't smell anything but

926
00:34:48,869 --> 00:34:48,000
just watch watch some of the beauty up

927
00:34:50,869 --> 00:34:48,879
there

928
00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:50,879
and that's that's the uh kind of the

929
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:53,520
image that um

930
00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:55,440
hubble is big and particularly when

931
00:35:01,270 --> 00:34:58,640
you're looking at it from the bottom

932
00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:01,280
and uh you know to when story and i got

933
00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:02,800
to go up to the very top of the

934
00:35:07,270 --> 00:35:05,200
telescope that was just um

935
00:35:09,589 --> 00:35:07,280
you know 50 feet may not sound like a

936
00:35:11,430 --> 00:35:09,599
long way from the orbiter but it sure

937
00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:11,440
sure felt that way and it's not not

938
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:12,800
where you want to be if you have a sense

939
00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:14,160
of vertigo

940
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:16,720
long long way down

941
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:19,920
um yeah just extraordinary experiences

942
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:22,000
that i think none of us will forget for

943
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:24,240
the rest of our lives

944
00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:25,200
and

945
00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:27,119
we call this our finished jewel it sat

946
00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:29,040
in the cargo bay for a full day or more

947
00:35:32,069 --> 00:35:30,720
before we deployed it

948
00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:32,079
so we would just go up to the mid deck

949
00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:33,280
and the flight deck and just look out

950
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:35,280
the back window and just stare at it so

951
00:35:39,430 --> 00:35:37,280
the only the only other thing i'll share

952
00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:39,440
you know you you heard from from ed

953
00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:41,839
about when when they discovered that the

954
00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:43,359
pictures

955
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:45,440
we're coming back and we're working but

956
00:35:49,750 --> 00:35:47,520
but we didn't know that

957
00:35:51,589 --> 00:35:49,760
but i'll never forget it was it was new

958
00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:51,599
year's eve and so no public

959
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,920
announcements had been made but

960
00:35:57,030 --> 00:35:55,680
we were cleaning up from a party it was

961
00:35:59,430 --> 00:35:57,040
about one o'clock in the morning the

962
00:36:01,270 --> 00:35:59,440
phone rang it was a an old astronomer

963
00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:01,280
friend at the at the space telescope

964
00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:02,800
science institute

965
00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:04,480
uh and after

966
00:36:08,069 --> 00:36:06,240
you know wishing each other and uh happy

967
00:36:09,510 --> 00:36:08,079
new year he said you know jeff you have

968
00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:09,520
any champagne

969
00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:11,359
and yeah we had half a bottle still in

970
00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:13,760
the in the refrigerator so i said well

971
00:36:17,030 --> 00:36:15,040
we're really not supposed to tell

972
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:17,040
anybody because a certain politician

973
00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:19,280
wants to make an announcement publicly

974
00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:21,520
in a few days but we figured that the

975
00:36:26,950 --> 00:36:23,680
crew ought to know that you know we've

976
00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:26,960
got the pictures back and it works which

977
00:36:29,430 --> 00:36:28,240
of course

978
00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:29,440
uh

979
00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:32,320
we all knew but that was the

980
00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:34,480
because we of course knew that that we

981
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:36,720
had gone up and done our job

982
00:36:41,589 --> 00:36:38,960
uh and many people had felt that this

983
00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:41,599
was such a complex mission that i mean

984
00:36:44,950 --> 00:36:42,960
at one point they were talking you know

985
00:36:46,390 --> 00:36:44,960
maybe they should split it into two

986
00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:46,400
missions because there were so many

987
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:49,599
things we had to do and uh you know but

988
00:36:53,910 --> 00:36:51,200
but we knew that

989
00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:53,920
all everything we had done worked and

990
00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:56,000
would the optics actually work and so

991
00:36:59,430 --> 00:36:57,599
that was um

992
00:37:01,510 --> 00:36:59,440
you know the rest as they say is is

993
00:37:03,510 --> 00:37:01,520
history it's um

994
00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:03,520
something i think uh

995
00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:05,359
you know i look back on it both as an

996
00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:08,079
astronomer and an astronaut as to have

997
00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:09,839
been able to put my

998
00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:12,880
two hands on hubble in space uh

999
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:14,400
you know one of the high points of my

1000
00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:15,530
life

1001
00:37:19,430 --> 00:37:17,119
[Music]

1002
00:37:21,670 --> 00:37:19,440
that's it's nurtured a generation of

1003
00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:21,680
young scientists ed mentioned to me one

1004
00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:24,480
night this morning that reminded me that

1005
00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:26,400
while i was in orbit he was shepherding

1006
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:28,000
my family my husband and three young

1007
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:30,640
daughters through early morning live

1008
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:32,880
interview on good morning america

1009
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:34,800
well the oldest of those who was 11 at

1010
00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:36,640
that time when we flew this mission got

1011
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:38,880
her phd using hubble data

1012
00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:40,800
some years later so she's one of the

1013
00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:42,400
thousands of young scientists that have

1014
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:46,240
been nurtured by hubble in its time

1015
00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:48,640
perfect time and

1016
00:37:51,990 --> 00:37:50,000
i think we have some time for some

1017
00:37:54,950 --> 00:37:52,000
questions so

1018
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:54,960
it the one thing i'll say is um

1019
00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:57,920
so many so many people particularly my

1020
00:38:03,270 --> 00:38:00,320
astronomer friends uh

1021
00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:03,280
over the years have come up and you know

1022
00:38:07,270 --> 00:38:05,440
i have to shake your hand and and thank

1023
00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:07,280
you for fixing hubble

1024
00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:09,200
and all i could say was

1025
00:38:13,910 --> 00:38:11,920
it's it was a pleasure truly call us

1026
00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:13,920
again

1027
00:38:19,250 --> 00:38:15,440
it would be like space cowboys meets the

1028
00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:19,260
hst it would be awesome there we go

1029
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:32,790
five four

1030
00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:33,760
three

1031
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:34,720
two

1032
00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:35,520
one

1033
00:38:39,349 --> 00:38:37,520
and liftoff of the space shuttle

1034
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:39,359
discovery with the hubble space

1035
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:43,770
telescope our window on the universe

1036
00:40:07,030 --> 00:39:42,640
[Music]

1037
00:40:08,069 --> 00:40:07,040
bubble isn't just a satellite

1038
00:40:10,550 --> 00:40:08,079
it's

1039
00:40:12,069 --> 00:40:10,560
about humanity's quest for knowledge the

1040
00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:12,079
only way of finding the limits of the

1041
00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:13,359
possible

1042
00:40:17,109 --> 00:40:15,599
is by going beyond them into the

1043
00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:17,119
impossible

1044
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:19,040
i want to wish hubble its own set of

1045
00:40:28,780 --> 00:40:21,839
adventures that it may unlock further

1046
00:42:08,069 --> 00:40:39,560
[Music]

1047
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:12,230
so

1048
00:44:44,590 --> 00:42:28,810
[Music]

1049
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:44,600
hmm

1050
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:51,760
[Music]

1051
00:45:10,870 --> 00:44:52,850
boys

1052
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:12,410
me

1053
00:47:43,030 --> 00:45:34,000
[Music]

1054
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,980
uh

1055
00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:13,829
[Music]

1056
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,890
so

1057
00:48:58,900 --> 00:49:08,710
[Music]

1058
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:13,850
so

1059
00:49:13,860 --> 00:49:21,270
[Music]

1060
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:32,260
so

1061
00:50:33,589 --> 00:49:59,800
[Music]

1062
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:34,950
so

1063
00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:11,860
[Music]

1064
00:51:53,359 --> 00:51:59,460
so

1065
00:58:50,670 --> 00:52:10,470
[Music]